Well that was a waste of a break Olga :(

Anyway she filled her potential and got to #19 in the world which is unexpected.It is especially good in my opinion to fill your potential with hard working through your limited talents rathet than being such a wasted talent.

I'll take unfulfilled talent over "hard workers who make the most of their limited abilities" (an euphemism for overachievers) any day. As Lunaris would say, "it's a matter of opinion".

I blame German idealism for having made me think like this.

I'll take unfulfilled talent over "hard workers who make the most of their limited abilities" (an euphemism for overachievers) any day. As Lunaris would say, "it's a matter of opinion".

I blame German idealism for having made me think like this.

I concur. They are always the best to watch anyway. Half the players in my sig are already, or will end up being underachievers.

I concur. They are always the best to watch anyway. Half the players in my sig are already, or will end up being underachievers.
I am not trying to present "boring to watch" player as "exciting to watch" of course but this is my general aim.

I concur. They are always the best to watch anyway. Half the players in my sig are already, or will end up being underachievers.

We can always talk about what might have been, and of course sneer at the glory hogs.

Nikki 4 eva!1!!11!!!

Who is wearing the black top and white skirt?

Is this even Bammer and Gorvotsova?

The girl in the all white has a verry very very very high ball toss when serving.

:confused:

I'll take unfulfilled talent over "hard workers who make the most of their limited abilities" (an euphemism for overachievers) any day. As Lunaris would say, "it's a matter of opinion".

I blame German idealism for having made me think like this.
Definitely a matter of opinion, but this time I agree with you. Give me Nalbandian and Safin over Davydenko any day.

High ball toss is Bammer, ball basher is Govortsova

Thank You

We can always talk about what might have been, and of course sneer at the glory hogs.

Nikki 4 eva!1!!11!!!

Unfortunately, I'm the constant optimist with any players I like. Heck, part of me still thinks Kutuzova could be a half-decent player and that Vaidisova can win a slam. :o

But yeah, I'll settle for bitching about overachievers and hoggers in GM.

Definitely a matter of opinion, but this time I agree with you. Give me Nalbandian and Safin over Davydenko any day.
This is level above where I am talking - Of course I would prefer to watch Safin or Nalbandian instead of Davydenko.

I am generally talking about Sugiyama,Bammer,Govortsova,Rezai type players.

Definitely a matter of opinion, but this time I agree with you. Give me Nalbandian and Safin over Davydenko any day.

Good Nalbandian, who shows up about twice every three years, plays the game the way it is supposed to be played. Textbook perfection.

Unfortunately, I'm the constant optimist with any players I like. Heck, part of me still thinks Kutuzova could be a half-decent player and that Vaidisova can win a slam. :o

Maybe Nikki's aufhebung is near. Nikki's Hegelian dialectic would go like this:

Rise to the top 10 (2005-2006)

Suckitude (2007-2008)

Glory (2009-)

I am generally talking about Sugiyama,Bammer,Govortsova,Rezai type players.

How do we fit players who are both extremely talented and overachievers, like Chakvetadze, into this equation?

Wow, I wasn't aware that Bammer has such a ridiculously high ball toss. Dreadful, I can't imagine how tough it must be to toss like that consistently, especially in windy conditions. If I tried that myself I wouldn't be able to hit the ball inside the court.

This is level above where I am talking - Of course I would prefer to watch Safin or Nalbandian instead of Davydenko.

I am generally talking about Sugiyama,Bammer,Govortsova,Rezai type players.
Well, I personally find these players equally boring. If they are one-dimensional ballbashers like Sharapova or one-dimensional counterpunchers like Jankovic doesn't matter much for me. Jankovic at least has that backhand, but other than that not that big difference.

Maybe Nikki's aufhebung is near. Nikki's Hegelian dialectic would go like this:

Rise to the top 10 (2005-2006)

Suckitude (2007-2008)

Glory (2009-)

:hearts:

She'll win the Grand Slam in 2009, beating Sharapova in the AO F, Ivanovic in the RG F, Venus in the Wimbledon F, Serena in the USO F. Easy. Doubt she'll even drop a set either.

Nice rally on matchpoint.

That ball toss is scaring me. :scared: Feel like it's just going to come and hit me in the head. :o

bammer won

How do we fit players who are both extremely talented and overachievers, like Chakvetadze, into this equation?
She is far too complicated to put into any kind of equation.

Wow, I wasn't aware that Bammer has such a ridiculously high ball toss. Dreadful, I can't imagine how tough it must be to toss like that consistently, especially in windy conditions. If I tried that myself I wouldn't be able to hit the ball inside the court.
She got nervous it seems,throw the ball up 3-4 times at one of her MPs and struggled with it all service game.

bammer wins

Black/Huber and Grandin/Haynes are now on court. Let's hope it'll be an entertaining match. :)

She [Chakvetadze] is far too complicated to put into any kind of equation.

I'd say "fascinating" rather than merely "complicated". ;)

She's the kind of player whose career will seem unbelievable only a few years from now.

She's the kind of player whose career will seem unbelievable only a few years from now.
She has a very nice game to watch actually but if only she can get over her usual brain cramps which are happening very often lately.

Tobi, what do you think about the latest addition Agnieszka Radwanska? Already massively hyped in the GM.

Tobi, what do you think about the latest addition Agnieszka Radwanska? Already massively hyped in the GM.
She is massively hyped,I agree.

But I like watching her play,since she emerged to the tour actually but all those Polish,non Polish hype in the forum isnt for me anyway she is very smart and keeps improving.Her serve is still weak but there arent many players to explode that weakness also she is backing up her serve well once she gets into the rally.

But you know there are two ways for her,either outsmarting her oppenents as she is doing at her many matches,either geting crushed like happened in Wimbledon against Serena.But if she can improve her serve,she is right up there.Also she is keeping her head and cool together,which is rare in womens tennis.

It certainly is an entertaining match the one that Black/Huber and Grandin/Haynes are playing. Well, I love watching doubles matches (especially women's) so it's an entertaining match for me :lol:

(1) Black/Huber vs Grandin/Haynes 6-4 0-0*

Rizaaa! :d

I stand with lenavee and Corswandt on this issue. I find girls who have overstepped their boundaries and achieved way more than their talent should have given them to be bothersome. I do like Sugiyama, but I think she is blessed with the two quickest feet I have ever seen in my life, and I view that as an attribute of talent.

It certainly is an entertaining match the one that Black/Huber and Grandin/Haynes are playing. Well, I love watching doubles matches (especially women's) so it's an entertaining match for me :lol:

(1) Black/Huber vs Grandin/Haynes 6-4 0-0*

Gotta love the webcams :hearts:. I have been most pleased to see Abi Spears play in the qualis. She really does seem to have the game to get back into the top 100. I hope her dear mom is getting better :kiss:.

Tobi, what do you think about the latest addition Agnieszka Radwanska? Already massively hyped in the GM.

she will have a better career than hantuchova
she will be in top 5 soon.

amanmuradova is tallest player on the tour but still got a poor service percentage and can't create proper angles.
D

This match has to be one of the funniest things I have ever experienced. Two of the most incredibly awkward players on the tour facing off.

why does bartoli always uses double handed forehand even when she is volleying.??
she could have eneded the rallys by a smash instead she chooses to extend it. :lol:
C'mon marion.

Marion broke. No idea what the score is.

akgul needs to take some volleying lessons from karlovic.

Marion broke. No idea what the score is.

bartoli 6-1 *5-3

bartoli 6-1 *5-3

Thanks ;)

mp

Gsm M.Bartoli
6-1 6-3

is kateryina wearing black?

yes, she held her opening service game also.

Bondarenko has started off pretty well.

Damn.:(

C'mon Ash!

see ya Ashley

2-1 Bondarenko

Ash breaks back. :D 1-2

katya gifted ashely this game. a lot of wide and long returns to get broken.

horrible match from both players so far

ugly game from Ash.:o

good fh

great bh

great lob :worship:

1-4. :tape:

what the hell is wrong with ashley?????//

katya is on fire ripping fh winners everywhere.

harkleroad just can't do anything right now
from poor serving to bad baseline game.

so is she done in this match? Is it even worth staying up to watch to hope she makes a comeback?

How is Ash still in this game? I thought Katya won it a couple points ago. :shrug:

ashley loses first set 1-6, its over for her.....she should retire

1-5 :sad:

Katya has too much firepower for her and looks like she is feeling pressured into going for too much.

ashley loses first set 1-6, its over for her.....she should retire

:weirdo:

:weirdo:

2-6

katya break her

*2-5

At least she didnt' completely give up on this set. Now hold serve for once!

:weirdo:

he meants to say retire from this match so that his bet would be void. :p

yes, ashley is gonna kill me tonight!!

good hold from ash

Fought off two set points! :bounce:

3-5. Still some work to do. :armed:

yes, ashley is gonna kill me tonight!!

how much money did you put on her.?

how much money did you put on her.?

$500

ashley will cost me a nickel

wow ash is fighting back.
good one MTR. your hope is alive.

ashley loses first set 4-6

Ash breaks again! :woohoo:

Poor body language from Katya, now capitalize Ash! :)

now katya is in trouble.
C'mon wake up girl

fight ashley!!!!!!!!!!!

deuce

ad-kat :(

deuce again

great FH winner :eek:

adv ash

dadvantage ash

great defense from ash 5-5

5-5 :hearts:

Ash saved 4 SPs in this set so far!!!

ash picked up her game.

katya 6-5*

ugh, Katya regrouped nicely.

Now send it to a TB Ash!;)

challenge coming up
30-0 she losses challenge

30-15

30-30

long bh 30-30

sp #5 bh error

bh goes long
ash chokes the set away after all that fight. :lol:

She fights back from 1-5 down to lose the set 7-5. :sobbing:

Take it in three pls!

all right i'm done today.
i hope katya wins.
goodnight guys.

all right i'm done today.
i hope katya wins.
goodnight guys.

goodnight! :wavey:

Maybe Ash will win now that you're leaving.:p

Ashley is getting a medical timeout. Hope everything is ok and it's just precautionary.:sad:

is the scoreboard frozen?

can ashley come back and win this>??????????

scoreboard is creating problems:( not working good:(

med timeout??????

whats wrong??????/

retire retire retire!!!!!!!!

0-1. :(

what happened?

ash is choking again, down 0-2

Ash holds, 1-1 :cool:

ash is choking again, down 0-2

Its 1-1 in the second set, get off the drugs.

1-2.

The scoreboard is way ahead of the livestream.

2-1

1-2.

The scoreboard is way ahead of the livestream.

Where is the link for the live stream?

Where is the link for the live stream?

http://gostanford.cstv.com/livestats/tennis/StanfordTennis.html

Ashley can hardly hold her serve. I dont think she has had a comfortable hold yet.

Ash held her serve pretty easily this time. That's a good sign.:)

http://gostanford.cstv.com/livestats/tennis/StanfordTennis.html

I dont see them playing on any of the courts?

I dont see them playing on any of the courts?

Click on the link that says "court 1". It's still labeled as Barte/Potgiete. :o

So many missed opportunities in that game. :o

*2-3

Katya is smacking so many winners now.

2-5.:sad:

GSM Bondarenko...nice play, esp in the 2nd set!

Nice fight in the first Ash, but couldn't do much in the second.